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	<description>Smart Ideas for Lazy Marketers</description>
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		<title>By: Marketing Automation Blog – Survey Results &#124; LeadSloth on Marketing Automation</title>
		<link>http://www.leadsloth.com/blog/marketing-automation-projects-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Automation Blog – Survey Results &#124; LeadSloth on Marketing Automation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] valued: clearly people enjoyed some of the recent posts that had a lot of discussion, like the “7 reasons why marketing automation projects fail” [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Ogden</title>
		<link>http://www.leadsloth.com/blog/marketing-automation-projects-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Ogden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jep, Arthur Germain and the Fearless Competitor, Jeff Ogden did a great podcast on this very topic.  You can listen to it at http://www.findnewcustomers.net/insideronly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jep, Arthur Germain and the Fearless Competitor, Jeff Ogden did a great podcast on this very topic.  You can listen to it at <a href="http://www.findnewcustomers.net/insideronly" rel="nofollow">http://www.findnewcustomers.net/insideronly</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.leadsloth.com/blog/marketing-automation-projects-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to second the notion that #7 isn&#039;t quite correct. We see marketing automation have great effect on converting more leads over time as well as helping to generate repeat business over time.

Leveraging marketing automation to create continuity campaigns can increase repeat business, or support lost cost subscription based models by providing great content to current customers and additional support information about product improvements, new revenue opportunities and other relevant customer values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to second the notion that #7 isn&#8217;t quite correct. We see marketing automation have great effect on converting more leads over time as well as helping to generate repeat business over time.</p>
<p>Leveraging marketing automation to create continuity campaigns can increase repeat business, or support lost cost subscription based models by providing great content to current customers and additional support information about product improvements, new revenue opportunities and other relevant customer values.</p>
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		<title>By: Jep Castelein</title>
		<link>http://www.leadsloth.com/blog/marketing-automation-projects-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>Jep Castelein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardath: &quot;closing the loop&quot; is great addition for the list

Arturo: &quot;lack of focus&quot; is actually a good reason for failure too

Barry: good point, I can also recommend the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marketo.com/b2b-marketing-resources/lead-nurturing-definitive-guide.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marketo Lead Nurturing guide&lt;/a&gt;, and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.genius.com/media/webinars/2009-08-19.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Genius.com Content Mapping webinar&lt;/a&gt;

Rebekah: campaign gone wrong, but - I must say - very quick follow-up from Marketo to improve the campaign. 

Charles: &quot;failure to define success&quot; is a great point to add to the list. And to your second point: if I were a marketing automation vendor, I would also make it look easy, but in reality it&#039;s indeed often quite hard to get the full benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardath: &#8220;closing the loop&#8221; is great addition for the list</p>
<p>Arturo: &#8220;lack of focus&#8221; is actually a good reason for failure too</p>
<p>Barry: good point, I can also recommend the <a href="http://www.marketo.com/b2b-marketing-resources/lead-nurturing-definitive-guide.php" rel="nofollow">Marketo Lead Nurturing guide</a>, and the <a href="http://www.genius.com/media/webinars/2009-08-19.php" rel="nofollow">Genius.com Content Mapping webinar</a></p>
<p>Rebekah: campaign gone wrong, but &#8211; I must say &#8211; very quick follow-up from Marketo to improve the campaign. </p>
<p>Charles: &#8220;failure to define success&#8221; is a great point to add to the list. And to your second point: if I were a marketing automation vendor, I would also make it look easy, but in reality it&#8217;s indeed often quite hard to get the full benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Eaton-Hennah</title>
		<link>http://www.leadsloth.com/blog/marketing-automation-projects-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Eaton-Hennah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some good points here, well made. I&#039;d add three; one which relates to 4.; Get senior/board level buy-in to any marketing automation project. I&#039;ve seen some fail, or fail to meet their potential because they are middle tier manager initiated, and lack a senior champion. Partly this is to get support for the sort of business process changes necessary, partly to avoid internecine squabbles over blame.

Addtionally; Don&#039;t assume it will be easy (whatever the vendor claims)! Not only will marketing and marketing ops managers need to get fully engaged with the tool(not something that comes easy to many marketers) but some will need to have a 2nd level under-the-hood expertise to support users and fix stuff. Addtionally you will need to expect to commit addtional time and resource during the definition, customisation, user testing and training phases; these things do no just arrive fully formed one Monday morning!

Finally; Don&#039;t fail to define success! You need meaningful and robust success indicators; they might be empirical (cost/lead, conversion rates) time related (fully implemented by XX/XX/XX) or related to efficiency (XX campaigns/manager/month).

regards,

Charles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good points here, well made. I&#8217;d add three; one which relates to 4.; Get senior/board level buy-in to any marketing automation project. I&#8217;ve seen some fail, or fail to meet their potential because they are middle tier manager initiated, and lack a senior champion. Partly this is to get support for the sort of business process changes necessary, partly to avoid internecine squabbles over blame.</p>
<p>Addtionally; Don&#8217;t assume it will be easy (whatever the vendor claims)! Not only will marketing and marketing ops managers need to get fully engaged with the tool(not something that comes easy to many marketers) but some will need to have a 2nd level under-the-hood expertise to support users and fix stuff. Addtionally you will need to expect to commit addtional time and resource during the definition, customisation, user testing and training phases; these things do no just arrive fully formed one Monday morning!</p>
<p>Finally; Don&#8217;t fail to define success! You need meaningful and robust success indicators; they might be empirical (cost/lead, conversion rates) time related (fully implemented by XX/XX/XX) or related to efficiency (XX campaigns/manager/month).</p>
<p>regards,</p>
<p>Charles</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Automation ROI: Efficiency or Revenue? &#124; LeadSloth on Demand Generation</title>
		<link>http://www.leadsloth.com/blog/marketing-automation-projects-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Automation ROI: Efficiency or Revenue? &#124; LeadSloth on Demand Generation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sunday, August 30th, 2009 &#124; Demand Generation &#124; Jep Castelein    As a response to my posts 7 Reasons Why Marketing Automation Projects Fail and Marketing Automation ROI, several people mentioned that the benefits of Marketing Automation [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rebekah Donaldson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebekah Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto Barry&#039;s comment. 

I don&#039;t have an example of a project gone wrong from an insider perspective -- but I totally have an example of automation gone bad, from the outside perspective.

From the Shocking Marketing No Nos Department
http://blog.b2bcommunications.com/2009/03/13/from-the-shocking-marketing-no-nos-department/

It went wrong b/c there was an underlying issue re assumed permission -- then automation spread the problem like a nasty sneeze. Ok, not a great image to implant in everyone&#039;s minds... sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto Barry&#8217;s comment. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have an example of a project gone wrong from an insider perspective &#8212; but I totally have an example of automation gone bad, from the outside perspective.</p>
<p>From the Shocking Marketing No Nos Department<br />
<a href="http://blog.b2bcommunications.com/2009/03/13/from-the-shocking-marketing-no-nos-department/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.b2bcommunications.com/2009/03/13/from-the-shocking-marketing-no-nos-department/</a></p>
<p>It went wrong b/c there was an underlying issue re assumed permission &#8212; then automation spread the problem like a nasty sneeze. Ok, not a great image to implant in everyone&#8217;s minds&#8230; sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jep - I like all your points and the additions others have made.  I also enjoy your blog.  What I find critical, and likely one of the most difficult aspects of effective automation, is defining the campaign structures.  Developing the correct sequences, channels and content is very challenging.  Obviously, this demands good collaboration with sales and relevant and compelling content for each message / component.  Guides and examples on this would be very beneficial. Perhaps this is the point Arturo was addressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jep &#8211; I like all your points and the additions others have made.  I also enjoy your blog.  What I find critical, and likely one of the most difficult aspects of effective automation, is defining the campaign structures.  Developing the correct sequences, channels and content is very challenging.  Obviously, this demands good collaboration with sales and relevant and compelling content for each message / component.  Guides and examples on this would be very beneficial. Perhaps this is the point Arturo was addressing.</p>
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		<title>By: 7 Reasons Why Marketing Automation Projects Fail &#171; Doherty White : Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>7 Reasons Why Marketing Automation Projects Fail &#171; Doherty White : Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Castelein has written an excellent post, &#8220;7 Reasons Why Marketing Automation projects fail&#8221; on his Lead Sloth blog.  Some of his points are to be expected e.g. No. 1, know who you&#8217;re [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Castelein has written an excellent post, &#8220;7 Reasons Why Marketing Automation projects fail&#8221; on his Lead Sloth blog.  Some of his points are to be expected e.g. No. 1, know who you&#8217;re [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Arturo F Munoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arturo F Munoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jep, I&#039;ll latch on to your #6 reason: A Bad Business Model.

Not only start-ups but whole corporate teams aiming at high-growth market sectors try to automate marketing processes to help them exploit that grow opportunity faster. However, lack of focus is indeed a problem, but not merely in targeting the wrong offer to the right kind of audience. It is a problem in keeping the marketing team from understanding which work process, if automated, will produce the most significant impact on the business&#039; bottom line.

This is why &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-marketing-it-process-strategist.com/Marketing_Workflow_Simulation.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;work flow simulation&lt;/a&gt; is so critical in determining what to deliver to marketers as part of the automation solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jep, I&#8217;ll latch on to your #6 reason: A Bad Business Model.</p>
<p>Not only start-ups but whole corporate teams aiming at high-growth market sectors try to automate marketing processes to help them exploit that grow opportunity faster. However, lack of focus is indeed a problem, but not merely in targeting the wrong offer to the right kind of audience. It is a problem in keeping the marketing team from understanding which work process, if automated, will produce the most significant impact on the business&#8217; bottom line.</p>
<p>This is why <a href="http://www.the-marketing-it-process-strategist.com/Marketing_Workflow_Simulation.html" rel="nofollow">work flow simulation</a> is so critical in determining what to deliver to marketers as part of the automation solution.</p>
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